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	<description>William Bakker is Chief Strategist at Think! Social Media. These are my personal thoughts.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.wilhelmus.ca/2009/11/the-destination-branding-illusion.html/comment-page-1#comment-387</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Joe. I agree, and that&#039;s where DMO&#039;s should display leadership with the industry to deliver experiences that are &quot;on brand&quot; instead of changing the logo, typography and the visual design of the website every 3 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Joe. I agree, and that&#8217;s where DMO&#8217;s should display leadership with the industry to deliver experiences that are &#8220;on brand&#8221; instead of changing the logo, typography and the visual design of the website every 3 years.</p>
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		<title>By: JEBworks</title>
		<link>http://www.wilhelmus.ca/2009/11/the-destination-branding-illusion.html/comment-page-1#comment-386</link>
		<dc:creator>JEBworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Missed this the first time around! Totally agree with the premise. Sadly, it seems, too many DMO marketers seem to think a new logo, tag line or website re-design = re-branding. Far from it. 

Might be applicable to a bar of soap, where the &quot;experience&quot; starts with the name, packaging, size, shape, aroma etc. all elements the brand manager can control. Hardly the case for most services, especially those in tourism delivered by third parties beyond the control of the DMO. Makes it a much more complex marketing task than many marketers outside tourism realize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missed this the first time around! Totally agree with the premise. Sadly, it seems, too many DMO marketers seem to think a new logo, tag line or website re-design = re-branding. Far from it. </p>
<p>Might be applicable to a bar of soap, where the &#8220;experience&#8221; starts with the name, packaging, size, shape, aroma etc. all elements the brand manager can control. Hardly the case for most services, especially those in tourism delivered by third parties beyond the control of the DMO. Makes it a much more complex marketing task than many marketers outside tourism realize.</p>
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		<title>By: wilhelmus</title>
		<link>http://www.wilhelmus.ca/2009/11/the-destination-branding-illusion.html/comment-page-1#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>wilhelmus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great discussion everybody. There was another conversation on Twitter and Facebook as well. One aspect discussed there was the importance of a visual identify and communication style. I think that&#039;s often meant by rebranding and I agree that&#039;s important. But a brand is much more. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I like the comments here about relationships. Before somebody visits, the stories told by other people is a big factor in the decision process. Social Media makes the right people available to share these stories. And the role of DMO marketing is to encourage and motivate people to share their stories, activate your brand advocates and give them the tools to make an impact, rally your industry to join the conversation and amplify all these messages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great discussion everybody. There was another conversation on Twitter and Facebook as well. One aspect discussed there was the importance of a visual identify and communication style. I think that&#39;s often meant by rebranding and I agree that&#39;s important. But a brand is much more. </p>
<p>I like the comments here about relationships. Before somebody visits, the stories told by other people is a big factor in the decision process. Social Media makes the right people available to share these stories. And the role of DMO marketing is to encourage and motivate people to share their stories, activate your brand advocates and give them the tools to make an impact, rally your industry to join the conversation and amplify all these messages.</p>
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		<title>By: wilhelmus</title>
		<link>http://www.wilhelmus.ca/2009/11/the-destination-branding-illusion.html/comment-page-1#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>wilhelmus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great discussion everybody. There was another conversation on Twitter and Facebook as well. One aspect discussed there was the importance of a visual identify and communication style. I think that&#039;s often meant by rebranding and I agree that&#039;s important. But a brand is much more. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I like the comments here about relationships. Before somebody visits, the stories told by other people is a big factor in the decision process. Social Media makes the right people available to share these stories. And the role of DMO marketing is to encourage and motivate people to share their stories, activate your brand advocates and give them the tools to make an impact, rally your industry to join the conversation and amplify all these messages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great discussion everybody. There was another conversation on Twitter and Facebook as well. One aspect discussed there was the importance of a visual identify and communication style. I think that&#39;s often meant by rebranding and I agree that&#39;s important. But a brand is much more. </p>
<p>I like the comments here about relationships. Before somebody visits, the stories told by other people is a big factor in the decision process. Social Media makes the right people available to share these stories. And the role of DMO marketing is to encourage and motivate people to share their stories, activate your brand advocates and give them the tools to make an impact, rally your industry to join the conversation and amplify all these messages.</p>
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		<title>By: AnnaPollock</title>
		<link>http://www.wilhelmus.ca/2009/11/the-destination-branding-illusion.html/comment-page-1#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>AnnaPollock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as a keen gardener, I love the compost image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a keen gardener, I love the compost image.</p>
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		<title>By: @Todd Lucier</title>
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		<dc:creator>@Todd Lucier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bingo William.  &quot;It&#039;s the stories that matter!&quot;&lt;br&gt;If no one knows your brand, no one is telling stories - perhaps.&lt;br&gt;And the more fans of your region, the more stories they&#039;ll tell and the bigger the brand recognition.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Brand is importantly built on the promises you make as Jaime points out and the relationships formed because you care as Doug says below.&lt;br&gt;I think defining your brand by what your customer experiences and shares is more simply an indication that your region has a clear offer that makes sense to your ideal guest.  There is a match.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Branding a destination can go much further than the stories guests are telling however, and to truly rebrand a destination, there needs to be attention paid to:&lt;br&gt;* getting the community to be engaged and faithful toward tourists in the community,&lt;br&gt;* involve all aspects of the community in sharing a vision of what visitors can expect,&lt;br&gt;* developing new packages, products and most importantly partnerships that are geared toward meeting the needs of guests you desire in your community - the ideal guests,&lt;br&gt;* figuring out what the authentic experiences are in your community, as well as who the engaging personalities are and putting them centre stage,&lt;br&gt;* telling your own stories by engaging story tellers in sharing all kinds of media about your community.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, I agree stories are critical, but as for branding, or rebranding, it can be done, but it involves a much bigger think than sending out fresh advertising imagery with new headlines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bingo William.  &#8220;It&#39;s the stories that matter!&#8221;<br />If no one knows your brand, no one is telling stories &#8211; perhaps.<br />And the more fans of your region, the more stories they&#39;ll tell and the bigger the brand recognition.</p>
<p>Brand is importantly built on the promises you make as Jaime points out and the relationships formed because you care as Doug says below.<br />I think defining your brand by what your customer experiences and shares is more simply an indication that your region has a clear offer that makes sense to your ideal guest.  There is a match.</p>
<p>Branding a destination can go much further than the stories guests are telling however, and to truly rebrand a destination, there needs to be attention paid to:<br />* getting the community to be engaged and faithful toward tourists in the community,<br />* involve all aspects of the community in sharing a vision of what visitors can expect,<br />* developing new packages, products and most importantly partnerships that are geared toward meeting the needs of guests you desire in your community &#8211; the ideal guests,<br />* figuring out what the authentic experiences are in your community, as well as who the engaging personalities are and putting them centre stage,<br />* telling your own stories by engaging story tellers in sharing all kinds of media about your community.</p>
<p>So, I agree stories are critical, but as for branding, or rebranding, it can be done, but it involves a much bigger think than sending out fresh advertising imagery with new headlines.</p>
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		<title>By: ClaudeBenard</title>
		<link>http://www.wilhelmus.ca/2009/11/the-destination-branding-illusion.html/comment-page-1#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>ClaudeBenard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Via Twitter, In 140 c. my feeling ;-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;@wilhelmus DMO need to deal with the &quot;IN&quot; brand&quot; with their tools and the &quot;OFF&quot; brand with all the UGC that handle their brand without them!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe the main challenge for DMO&#039;s is :&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To provide &quot;compost&quot; content and tools to the Web and to users.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With this &quot;compost&quot; (who is great quality from the DMO direct know how on their destination) the folks can play a great UGC game.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hope this &quot;garden&quot; &amp; &quot;compost&quot; analogy is clear ;-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best regards&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Claude</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Via Twitter, In 140 c. my feeling <img src='http://www.wilhelmus.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@wilhelmus DMO need to deal with the &#8220;IN&#8221; brand&#8221; with their tools and the &#8220;OFF&#8221; brand with all the UGC that handle their brand without them!</p>
<p>Maybe the main challenge for DMO&#39;s is :</p>
<p>To provide &#8220;compost&#8221; content and tools to the Web and to users.</p>
<p>With this &#8220;compost&#8221; (who is great quality from the DMO direct know how on their destination) the folks can play a great UGC game.</p>
<p>Hope this &#8220;garden&#8221; &#038; &#8220;compost&#8221; analogy is clear <img src='http://www.wilhelmus.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Best regards</p>
<p>Claude</p>
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		<title>By: AnnaPollock</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnnaPollock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MOs have far less control over their destination brand than they think. Not only is the brand commensurate with the sum total of conversations about the destination as a place to visit but as a place in which to live, work and invest. A countries government, policies, culture, international leadership, contribution are beginning to matter far more and can be influenced by non &quot;official&quot; sources. See: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/5eFjmQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/5eFjmQ&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I expect that in the next five years more and more DMOs will be absorbed into larger place marketing entities - resistance to this trend will be futile. Tourism has to come out its silo and integrate itself with  the broader community and issues of the day or be absorbed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MOs have far less control over their destination brand than they think. Not only is the brand commensurate with the sum total of conversations about the destination as a place to visit but as a place in which to live, work and invest. A countries government, policies, culture, international leadership, contribution are beginning to matter far more and can be influenced by non &#8220;official&#8221; sources. See: <a href="http://bit.ly/5eFjmQ" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/bit.ly/5eFjmQ?referer=');">http://bit.ly/5eFjmQ</a></p>
<p>I expect that in the next five years more and more DMOs will be absorbed into larger place marketing entities &#8211; resistance to this trend will be futile. Tourism has to come out its silo and integrate itself with  the broader community and issues of the day or be absorbed.</p>
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		<title>By: wilhelmus</title>
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		<dc:creator>wilhelmus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love it. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love it. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: AuthenticSeacoast</title>
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		<dc:creator>AuthenticSeacoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While stories are important, it&#039;s the relationships that make the difference. Your relationships define your brand. And you can change how you have relationships with people who touch your brand. So put the branding talk aside and get out there are form meaningful relationships with people. Your brand will thank you for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While stories are important, it&#39;s the relationships that make the difference. Your relationships define your brand. And you can change how you have relationships with people who touch your brand. So put the branding talk aside and get out there are form meaningful relationships with people. Your brand will thank you for it.</p>
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